Fact-check: No beauty in Oberweis’ milking of Underwood’s answer to ‘rioting and looting’ question

While Underwood does not directly condemn “rioting and looting” during that appearance, taken in the full context of her remarks it is a stretch to suggest her praise of “beautiful protests” extends to looting and rioting.

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Jim Oberweis, left; Lauren Underwood, right.

State Sen. Jim Oberweis, left, addresses the Sun-Times Editorial Board on Feb. 7, 2020; Then Democratic candidate Lauren Underwood, right, addresses the Sun-Times Editorial Board in 2018.

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U.S. Rep. Lauren Underwood’s Republican challenger is running an ad that paints the first-term Democratic congresswoman as a supporter of acts of violence and property destruction.

State Sen. Jim Oberweis’ ad includes footage of Underwood responding to a question during an endorsement session with the Chicago Sun-Times Editorial Board about whether she condemns “rioting and looting.”

“With respect to rioting and looting, I think that we have seen many instances of beautiful protests,” Underwood says in a video clip featured in the ad, which abruptly cuts into a digitally-altered echo of her saying those last two words over footage of burning cars and ransacked buildings in Kenosha, Wis., Chicago and suburban Aurora.

“Riots are not beautiful, they’re ugly,” the ad’s narrator says. “Vote against rioters, and anyone who enables them. Vote against Lauren Underwood.”

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The vast majority of demonstrations across the nation against racial injustice since George Floyd was killed by police in Minnesota in May have been peaceful, a report from the Princeton University-affiliated U.S. Crisis Monitor found. Violence has erupted on some occasions, however, causing property damage, injuries and even deaths. And Republicans up and down the ticket have sought to conflate support for the peaceful protests as backing the violence.

So we decided to look into what Underwood said to see if it lined up with how Oberweis’ ad portrayed her stance.

Underwood did not directly address rioting with the Sun-Times

We reviewed a video of the Sun-Times endorsement session cited in the ad. While Underwood does not directly condemn “rioting and looting” during that appearance, taken in the full context of her remarks it is a stretch to suggest her praise of “beautiful protests” extends to looting and rioting.

About 20 minutes into the candidates’ joint appearance, the paper’s editorial page editor Tom McNamee asks Underwood twice to address several arguments Oberweis had raised, including the senator’s charge that she has not condemned “rioting and looting.”

“He says you once called him a racist, and he says you have failed to condemn rioting,” McNamee says in the video, to which Underwood responds by explaining she believes ads Oberweis has run during his political career “walk that line that I would call racist.”

U.S. Rep. Lauren Underwood participates in a Chicago Sun-Times Editorial Board endorsement interview last month.

U.S. Rep. Lauren Underwood participates in a Chicago Sun-Times Editorial Board endorsement interview last month.

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Then Underwood turns to the second part of McNamee’s question, saying, “I also, with respect to rioting and looting, I think that we have seen many instances of beautiful protests this summer as people have stood up for this cause of justice and equality.”

After that, Underwood makes a reference to Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old from her congressional district charged with killing two people and injuring a third in an attack on demonstrators in Kenosha following the police shooting of Jacob Blake. 

“I don’t think that that kind of violence has any place in our community and certainly in a way to intimidate or disrupt peaceful protest,” Underwood of Naperville says in the Sun-Times video. 

A spokeswoman for Underwood’s campaign said she was describing the peaceful protests she witnessed this summer in her district when she used the word “beautiful.”

Underwood condemned violence, property damage in another appearance

In a phone interview, Oberweis pointed to Underwood’s remarks during the Sun-Times interview to back up his ad. He told us he believes Underwood was describing “rioting and looting” as part of the “beautiful protests” she referenced when she spoke.

During another joint appearance the following week, however, Underwood made clear she opposes the violence that has marred some protests. Oberweis had raised the issue during that appearance as well.

State Sen. Jim Oberweis participates in a  Chicago Sun-Times Editorial Board endorsement interview last month.

State Sen. Jim Oberweis participates in a Chicago Sun-Times Editorial Board endorsement interview last month.

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“I think it’s really important that we continue to lift up the peaceful protesters, those who are exercising their First Amendment rights, but it is a tragedy when people are injured, when there’s violence, when there’s damage and the like as a result of these types of demonstrations,” Underwood told editors and reporters from the Daily Herald and Shaw Media. “That’s not appropriate.”

Our ruling

Oberweis’ ad says Underwood described riots as “beautiful protests.”

During the Editorial Board appearance that the ad is based on, Underwood pivoted away from a question about “rioting and looting” by steering the conversation back to the kind of protests she supports. The ad left out that she went on to say the “beautiful protests” were in reference to people who “stood up for this cause of justice and equality.”

She also has since made clear she opposes the outbreaks of violence that have occurred at some demonstrations.

We rate the ad’s claim False.

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FALSE — The statement is not accurate.

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The Better Government Association runs PolitiFact Illinois, the local arm of the nationally renowned, Pulitzer Prize-winning fact-checking enterprise that rates the truthfulness of statements made by governmental leaders and politicians. BGA’s fact-checking service has teamed up weekly with the Sun-Times, in print and online. You can find all of the PolitiFact Illinois stories we’ve reported together here.

Sources

Ad, Jim 2020, Sept. 18, 2020

“About 93% of racial justice protests in the US have been peaceful, a new report finds,” CNN, Sept. 4, 2020

Illinois 14th District Congressional endorsement interview, Chicago Sun-Times, Sept. 3, 2020

Emails, Underwood campaign spokesperson Andra Belknap, Sept. 8, 2020

Phone interview, Illinois state Sen. Jim Oberweis, Sept. 7, 2020

“Both candidates in 14th U.S. House race support protesters, call for police reforms,” Northwest Herald, Sept. 10, 2020

Illinois 14th District Congressional candidate discussion, Shaw Media, Sept. 9, 2020

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